Episode 04: #TeachtheBabies (ft. David Johns and Dr. John King)

We finally got to sit down with David Johns and John B. King Jr. at  The Inaugural National Black Male Educators Convening in Philly last month, hosted by The Fellowship: Black Male Educators for Social Justice. Last episode we chatted with Sharif El-Mekki and Vincent Cobb II, co-organizers of the Convening, which you can listen to here. First, we speak with David Johns, executive director of the National Black Justice Coalition who is also pursuing his doctorate at Columbia University. We discuss how to give students more of a voice in schools and conferences like this one, and somehow we end up talking about media portrayals of Black families—think “Black-ish,” "Cosby Show" and obviously "T.I. & Tiny." Next, we talk to John B. King Jr., the president and CEO of The Education Trust, and formerly the secretary of education under President Obama from 2016 to 2017. He shares his personal story of becoming an educator, and answers the question we all want to know: How do you get White people to care about teachers of color? [spp-player url=http://traffic.libsyn.com/voices4ed/04_-_Voices4ED_-_Education_Post_-_Black_Male_Educators.mp3] [spp-tweet tweet="“My hope is that there’s a strengthening of the community of Black male educators.” —@JohnBKing"]

Episode Details:

  • Ikhlas and Lane talk about their experience at the Black Male Educators Convening 1:03
  • David Johns joins us on the podcast and talks about what brought him to this conference 3:51
  • The role of students' voices and how to be more inclusive of their opinion 7:03
  • How we should ask students how their teachers and schools are doing 10:05
  • What David Johns does for self-care and why he does it 13:16
  • How TV shows have portrayed Black families throughout the years 16:44
  • Dr. King Jr. joins us on the episode and talks about what inspired him to become an educator 22:04
  • How to get more Black men in the classroom 24:39
  • How to get White people to care about getting more educators of color in the classroom 29:19
  • Why it’s good for all students to have experiences with Black educators 34:26
  • How to think about the role of the federal government in education during this current administration 36:14
  • Ikhlas' and Lane's favorite things at the conference 43:28
[spp-tweet tweet="“Whenever students are empowered, centered and celebrated—period, full stop— magical things happen.” —@MrDavidJohns"]

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